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  • #332102

    Graham Hart
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    Took some pics inside an undercover market we have here in Adelaide recently. Decided to go ‘auto' because without my tripod I couldn't get the long shutter speeds my camera was telling me I needed. The resulting pics are quite noisy due to the low light levels…maybe should have used the flash. Being mid-week, the market was a lot quieter than it gets on weekends and so I now have another item on my ‘to do' list…markets/tripod/weekend.

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    • This topic was modified 6 months, 2 weeks ago by  Graham Hart.
  • #332106

    Rob Wood (Admin)
    Keymaster

    Considering the lighting conditions, the noise performance isn't too bad at all!

    I especially like the top one.

    • #332173

      Graham Hart
      Participant

      Yeah but I was hoping for better. I  think the flash may have helped a fair bit but I didn't want to attract attention to myself and make people aware of me. I'm definitely going back though because on weekends the place is jam packed with people and a flash going off will attract less attention I think. Can't decide if the tripod/longer shutter speeds will work or not in this environment because I don't want motion blur although it can't hurt to check it out and see I guess.

  • #332145

    Tobie
    Moderator

    Agreeing with @admin although I gues the noise would only really show its ugly face when you try to raise the shadows to extract more detail. What were the ISO settings in these cases?

    • #332174

      Graham Hart
      Participant

      Hi Tobie, the exif info is on Flickr but in order from the top pic down, ISO was 200, 1600, 400 and 800. There's a few more pics from this adventure on Flickr too.

      • This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by  Graham Hart.
      • #332214

        Tobie
        Moderator

        Sorry mate, I missed the fact that they were flickr shots. The last one looks quite fine for ISO 800!

        The secret with high ISO photography is of course to finaly frame the shot when you take it (no cropping afterwards) and to have your exposure spot-on (not increasing it in PP).

  • #332154

    Tersha
    Keymaster

    Interesting shot Graham, all pretty good considering the lack of lighting.

    • #332176

      Graham Hart
      Participant

      Thanks Diane, its good to hear the reinforcement for what I thought were pretty much ordinary pics at best.

  • #332266

    bucweeet
    Participant

    I like all the shots Graham.

    Instead of going ‘full auto', I might be tempted to do a couple test shots in full auto to figure out the approximate settings, then select ‘shutter speed' setting.  I know in canon it's the Tv for Time Value (or there abouts).   The Exposure of 1/50 you used in a couple of the shots is pretty slow and will ‘probably' induce camera movement.    If possible use 1/80+ as it is slightly easier to use.  Not sure if you hold your arms ‘tightly to your chest' when shooting,  or steady arms against an object, or just being able to lean against a pole as these will help to alleviate the camera movement.  I also find that slowly exhaling when clicking the shutter also helps.

    One can also select ‘auto ISO' which helps get more light in; although the grain may increase as well.  However, at ISO 1600 there usually isn't much grain (or at least compared to some of the stuff I shoot).  You can also use Google software –> Dfine 2  which is pretty good at reducing grain (although the trade off my be some loss of sharpness).

    • This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by  bucweeet.
    • This reply was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by  bucweeet.
    • #332277

      Graham Hart
      Participant

      Hi Bucweeet, I think what you suggest is a great idea and I had intended to do something like that ie; take some shots on full auto and then read the exif and switch to manual and play with similar settings. Unfortunately I forgot to do that as I was too busy looking for stuff to photograph while on a rushed lunch break.

      I tried wherever possible to lock my arms in and minimise movement but at the end of the day I think longer shutter speeds were needed so next time I'll try Tv priority. I notice that the camera (on auto) had chosen quite different settings for each pic which made me wonder what system of priority it uses when measuring the light levels. I assume it sets one of the three parameters first and then adjust the others according to the exposure triangle relationship, but which one? Does it analyse each possible combination of ISO/Aperture/Shutter speed for a given light level and then decide which provides the least noise or the sharpest image? Interesting….

      I'll check out Dfine 2 so thanks for the tip.

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